Recently I received an email where I was asked the following questions:
So in your teaching, you concentrate a lot on the organized church and the false teachings that are in there. Which is of course the right thing to expose, and I am fully behind you on that.
However, what happens to the people who leave the IC? Some of the ones that are more fortunate come across your site and can read about things, and perhaps enter into Rescue. All very good stuff which I fully support.
However this leaves three sets of people a) those who want nothing to do with the church and God b) those who still want a relationship but outside of IC and c) those who go totally over into areas where the IC never could or should go. It is this group that I have a question as this is very close to home for me.
These are the people who get involved for example in areas of New Age or get sucked into alterative deliverance ministries. I was just wondering Pam in your experience have you come across people who leave the IC because they do not feel there is enough of the spiritual aspect and then they end up seeing a spiritual reason for everything going wrong e.g. generational curse, freemasonry, curses, witchcraft?
AND I AGREE!!!
The condition of the institutional church and its members is a difficult thing to swallow for those who identify with the scripture that is wrongly interpreted to suggest that all will be saved, or at least a vast majority. Instead, I personally focus on the words of the Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth where He warned that the way to salvation is narrow and few there be who will find it. The Lord also implied that there would be very few of His own that He will find when He returns to earth.
There is also an implication in the questions that I am doing a nice little thing here with RESCUEONLINE CHURCH but it’s only a drop in the bucket. The difference between me and the person posing the question is that I see the bucket as small when the other person sees it as large. Also, the one posing the question has not taken into account that one of the reasons for many leaving is that the church system has already become deeply involved in New Age, in alternative deliverance ministries and all kinds of questionable Asian and occult practices.
I admit that I had similar questions about five years ago, where I felt like I was a tiny cog in a huge wheel. Then I came to the revelation that THIS IS GOD’S BUSINESS and NOT MINE. I just do what He gives me to do, with a few or with “more than a few.” If I focus on the untold millions of both churchgoers and non-churchgoers who are deceived, I would get discouraged, then stagnant, and consequently, unproductive. So I work with who and what I have at hand.
I did not contend with the one who questioned me by email but the truth is that I am consistently evolving. As such, I no longer focus on either the organized church or its false doctrines and practices. My message on leave the church is extremely simple and targeted. Its targeted to those who have already heard from the Lord regarding the institutional church and who have been questioning Her for some time.
The simplicity of my message is this:
- The Holy Spirit is not in the institutional church. He may be in a few of the people but He is not in the system or in the buildings. I suspect He never was but I don’t know for sure. All I know is that He is not there. How do I know? Well He told me so. I do not try to compel anyone to believe me. I simply say, “In your praying, ask God if I am correct.” Simple.
- the Lord told us in the book of Revelation that back 2000 years ago, Satan has a seat. Today, the devil is fully in charge by steadily accruing the world wide empowerment of his fallen angels assigned to each and every pulpit. When I was a pastor in the IC, a fallen angel was assigned to the church I pastored also, while in that system. I closed it after 12 years that I established it within the IC. Simple.
- The Lord Himself spoke to His people through the Apostle John and stated to the last days church, “Come out of Her My People, lest ye be partakers of Her sin and receive Her plagues.” Simple.
These 3 reasons alone are enough to warn people to leave the church. If I am wrong, any local church will welcome you back.
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Pam, oh am I so grateful to have left the church system years ago. When I came to you I was desperate! I have been healed of deep terror and soul pain. I am so grateful for the experience of being in the wilderness upon being kicked out by my ex son in law. I have found my voice once again. I can safely read the bible again without feeling condemned. I understand now more than ever why I experienced what I have experienced. I have been returned to Beauty, Love, Compassion, and Mercy! You were very instrumental in my spiritual recovery. I do not feel like I have a religious demon in me anymore. IDK. All I know is that we need to help one another and believe as THE WORD teaches that we need not man to teach us anything for the Holy Spirit will teach us all things. Just recently I have met a couple of other bloggers who are so wonderful in their way of speaking or writing that I finally understood what I was going through before I found you! I was being stripped of my old ways. God was showing me that I am nothing without Him. The Holy Spirit had been teaching me a long time before I even found you. I do believe in dreams and yes I do agree with you on one thing that satan can deceive us into believing that we are something that we are not. Prior to meeting you as I recently found out, I was experiencing the “Dark Night of the Soul”. I call it my “dungeon experience.” I am not the only one who has experienced this. Praise the Lord! And to read their blogs was so very encouraging to me and I could relate so well to them. Unfortunately, not everyone survives that horrible experience. The last 2 years in itself has been quite a journey. I was just another wanderer wondering where I will be next. I had to be away from family to experience a new level of understanding. To experience a new kind of pain. Then to experience God’s Love and Protection for me after all. And also believe it is not my job to save everyone. The Word says that Jesus will send us a comforter and that He shall teach us all things. (The Holy Spirit) The IC started way back in the 3rd century with Rome wanting to be the ruler. And as we see now Rome is still doing it. And all of the other churches follow after Rome! And they will not listen to the likes of us. For we are indeed few but at the same time we are to love one another. God’s desire is to save all men. No one is above another. Or below another. Those who have titles behind their names are not to be trusted. But only God can bring them to repentance. If they be willing to let go. I thought I was supposed to be something great for God. I was on a ego trip with being an elect of God. But I am no better than the person next to me. (oh! no one is next to me right now! LOL) Pam you are gifted. And everyone who is part of The Church (not made by hands) are all equal and operate in different gifts. We have but one Teacher and that is Christ Jesus Yeshua! I am so very grateful to be alive now. Before meeting you all I wanted to do was die. I was so filthy. I became as nothing! God blanked my mind out.
Woops! You know me. I love to write long comments or letters. I just wanted to say thank you for your help.
Quite frankly, I appreciate the compliments but I don’t know who this is. Is it Tina?
Nope!
No it’s me Stacey
Wow, Stacey! it’s been a long time, more than three years. I would never have guessed in a million years. You certainly have come a long way. I like that you can now read the bible without feeling condemned.