For those of you who do not know what happened, Kim Burrell has been heading toward fame as a jazz- Christian singer. She is about to be on the Ellen DeGeneres show.

Kim Burrell arrives at the Staples Center for the 54th Grammy Awards in Los Angeles, California, February 12, 2012. AFP PHOTO Joe KLAMAR (Photo credit should read JOE KLAMAR/AFP/Getty Images)

Well, Burrell is also a preacher, started her own church in 2010. In a recent sermon preached at her church, she called homosexuality a sin in a rather bold and strong way. Someone in the congregation must have video taped her and put in on the web, and it went viral. The LGBTQ community is in a huff, and she has been called out by lots a folk, both gay and straight, particularly from her peers, including the likes of Shaka Kahn, Janelle Monae, and Pharrell.

The problem is that Burrell   is a carnal Christian, appearing to me to be serving  two masters, and BOTH masters are of the world where Satan is the god. Actually, she is serving ONE master with two opposing agendas, the Institutional church and the music industry. Clearly she works with gays, fellowships with them, benefits from their community and they feel betrayed. Nevertheless, though quite wild and graphic,  everything she  preached is  correct and righteous.

I watched Burrell’s video response to the viral outrage.

I must say that I like her. She is a sweet person. I also  like her boldness and her courage.  Nevertheless, Kim Burrell is   deceived. In her  response, my spirit discerns that  she  love  gay people  but the rest of her response was “without wisdom and spiritual knowledge.” . The outraged folk now perceive her as  an hypocritical phony, and they are hell-bent to destroy her music career.

I think I can help you Kim  to gain some perspective as to what may be going on here.

THIS IS NOT SATAN!!!!

GOD WANTS YOU OUT OF BOTH THE CHURCH WORLD AND THE ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY.

The Internet reveals that your net worth is 5 million dollars.  With that kind of money, you can live the rest of your life prospering so take the money and run!!!!I  speak from experience.

I have been a minister for 35 years, born again for 40 years.  When I was an atheist back in the 60’s, I openly and freely had gay friends when such behavior was totally unacceptable to that world. SInce I was an atheist back then, I had no contact with the church world.  Once I got to church in 1979, I found a lot of hypocrisy where sins of all kinds are concerned, including down-low homosexuality and lesbianism within not only the sheepfold but the pastors. Like  you, Kim,  I was bold enough to preach the word of God against perversions of all kinds. I created many church enemies.  It did me no good nor the people any good because church folk  really don’t take seriously  a preacher who exposes sin.

This is the reality of the world we live in today, for the church has been a part of the world for centuries now. The sin of homosexuality is merely one in a bagful of sins.  The church is equally as sinful as the music, TV and movie  industry. As the god of this world, Satan is trying to unite ALL of his kingdom’s together.

So what is happening to you Kim, is a message from God.

You cannot mix Christ with Belial!!! This is YOUR sin. 

 So understand that the people are being unmerciful to you because it is God who has hardened their hearts in order to save you from being among THEM, and I am not just referring to LGBTQ but the entire Christian music industry and the institutional church, the end-time Harlot. .   If singing MUST be  your career, then take Christ out of it and go and sing jazz, the blues  or whatever. I listened to you today and I would put you in a class with Sarah Vaughn, or Lena Horne.  They did well without the institutional church.

You have enough money to do whatever you want to do as long as you take control over your finances. With that kind of money, you are set for life.

When people come against you like this Kim. it is because you are a chosen vessel of God.  If you were of them, they would cut you some slack and love you. But their hatred is a sign that you belong to Jesus.

SO COME OUT FROM AMONG THEM, GURL!

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For those who don’t know what the rapture is, simply put, it is a Christian belief that just BEFORE the Great Tribulation of 7 years, the Lord Jesus Christ will come back and rescue or snatch His people from the earth.

Pre-tribulationalist believe the rapture will occur before the Tribulation. The post tribbers believe it will happen at the end of the 7 years while  the Mid-tribbers believe that God’s people will go through the  first 3 1/2 years and then Christ will  snatched them off the planet before all hell breaks loose around the world under the control of the Anti-Christ, when God’s people will not be able to buy or sell without taking the mark of the beast.

Well, I suspect  that the 7 year tribulation begins on 1/21/17. Therefore, if God’s people are not raptured in the next month, then the Pre-tribbers are wrong. If it were not for a dream I had 5 years ago about Russia’s “cold or cyber war” on the US, with instructions that I was to save food and water, as much as I would like to be snatched away in 3 1/2 years, there would be no need to prepare  if the Mid-Tribbers belief is the correct one.

So I don’t know about you, but I plan to continue prepping for the next 3 1/2 years as I wait on the Lord’s return in the year 2024. Now, understand this.  I am not making a dogmatic prediction of the day or the hour. Yet the Lord DID say that we would know the season. And I believe that the season of the Great Tribulation of 7 years is NOW!

Just know that if I am wrong, there is no harm, no foul. Actually I don’t mind leaving all my prepping behind for others or giving food away if the Lord does not return in 2024.

We may recognize the Antichrist now, but we could be wrong.  Just know that the bible gives a foolproof way “to know without a doubt.”   In 3 1/2 years after the AC comes to power, he will receive a deadly head wound and he will be miraculously healed.  Yet, if you wait for that to happen, you will have no time to prepare for the terrible half of that 7 years.  So take heed, and prepare NOW!

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One thing that this election has shown me for certain is the fact that the enemy resides in the organized church system, or what society tends to identify as “church.” You meet there on Sundays for “worship” which is really just people’s way to gratify their flesh by participating in something that “feels good.” Nevermind the lack of TRUTH that is involved. You go there to engage in all types of religious practices that are supposed to be attempts to serve God, but are rather a bunch of different rituals that most who attend have know idea their reasoning for engaging in. You find that you have believed in FALSE DOCTRINES that are preached, because the religion has blinded you so much that you could not see the difference between a form of Godliness vs the real thing…but now you are in desperate search for the real thing because, quite frankly, what is offered out here is obviously not of God. There are so many different things that go on there that you KNOW are wrong, but you just can’t put your finger on it. You notice that people out there who consider themselves “Christians” actually voted for and/or supported an elected official whose entire platform is based on hatred, bigotry, racism, and divisiveness, yet people who say they stand for Christ actually SUPPORT this platform. You SEE the evil operating behind the scenes in the churches, and you see how this evil causes church leaders, who are supposed to be men and women of God, to ignore it and sweep it under the rug. You realize that everything you have been raised in, have based your morals and values on, and have come to believe as true because it was taught to you as being true, is actually NOT TRUE, but rather the devil hiding behind the scenes deceiving people into thinking that they are worshiping God by “going to what they describe as ‘church.’” You question practices like tithing, speaking in tongues, the laying on of hands, intercessory prayer, and praying Jesus into your heart. You wonder why if God’s church is supposed to be of one faith, one Lord, and one Baptism, then WHY IN THE WORLD ARE THERE SO MANY DIFFERENT DENOMINATIONS THAT PREACH DIFFERENT THINGS, AND PREACH DIFFERENT SALVATION GOSPELS, WHEN THER IS ONLY ONE WAY???!!! You’ve witnessed outright sinful practices going on in what they call, “church,” yet this is supposed to be a HOLY PLACE? OF GOD? This puzzles you. “You KNOW that no good tree can bear bad fruit, yet you see bad fruit growing from the “church” tree, and realize that something is terribly awry here.

If this is you, and you connect with what I am saying here, then it is by NO ACCIDENT that you have landed here. You have realized that the organized church is NOT the REAL CHURCH, LED BY CHRIST, but rather an attempt by man, inspired by the devil, to try and duplicate the real thing. The Lord may be drawing you out for such a time as this. You are not alone. There are others out there just like you. We call ourselves endtime ministers and watchmen who believe that NOW is the time of the tribulation. Our mission is to help you  prepare for the Lord’s return.

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“¹⁸ A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. ¹⁹ Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. ²⁰ Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.”

(Matthew 7:18-20, NIV)

Do you find yourself unmotivated and wearied to follow after the things of God? Do you feel complacency upon your soul because you have believed a lie  “That you have nothing to offer, that the work is already done, or it is impossible to do?” You have a SOUL ( your mind, will and emotions ) that you can control- You can acknowledge that you have transgressed against His Truth, that you have stepped off the path and you can choose to step right back on. It is simply a daily conscious effort on OUR PART. If we proclaim that we desire to follow His Truth, than we must do ( obey ) what is necessary to do so. We all must acknowledge that it is not enough to just be a part of its audience, but to long after IT tenaciously, so that we have something to GIVE to each other, and to be changed and set free from the bondage of deception all around us. His life is Truth, and as believers it is OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO contend for it.

As not Born Again, I was still interested VERY MUCH in the things of GOD. Many say they are, but have learned just to become religious, treating the WORD and the way of God as a compartment to their lives. This “following Truth” is either the essence of WHO YOU ARE or ‘who’ you are not. IF it is in you to long after it and you know this, then Born Again or not, you must HEED that which is in you, and keep yourself from getting weary in doing so. This is in ME, but I allowed myself to become ‘complacent’, because of being consumed with the temporal things of this WORLD, that don’t amount to spiritual freedom or growth, but instead, taking me down a slippery path to becoming more deceived in my mind. WE have to continually BE AWARE of ‘WHAT WE THINK ABOUT’ We may not express it out loud, but we are in danger of believing ourselves to be something that we are not, in the spiritual vanities of our minds. The ‘religious’ are content to STAY THERE, after all, it is what feeds them over and over again, as their mindset is wired for the entrance of more and more spiritual vanities, until or if they are awakened to some undeception.. . It is not important to them to deny the things of the flesh, so as to follow TRUTH instead.

Unfortunately, through the institutional church and all other world distractors, we have been taught to frustrate and complicate things, as it is part of the deception of the enemy. (If we are deceived, then everything seems MORE important than the work of GOD’S TRUTH.) It is a ‘fight’ we will fight to the end, but as we obey God’s call to HIS TRUTH, we will not only please Him, we will begin to feel a GREATER NEED FOR MORE AND MORE TRUTH TO BE FOUND IN HIM, – IT WILL CHANGE US AND MAY ALSO BRING ABOUT OUR SALVATION. If we are PASSIVE in our seeking The LORD, then we are LIARS BEFORE HIM. That may seem harsh to express, BUT TO BE PASSIVE, INDIFFERENT or CARELESS to HIS TRUTH…IS to continue to WALK in LIES. Whether you are Born Again or waiting for salvation, as a believer, you still have the power of choice to “follow after” HIS TRUTH and make it the NUMBER ONE PRIORITY in your life.

What motivates you? Who are you in this world?

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Black folk have always been victimized by scams. Back in the day, There was a money scam called “Bakin Bread.” Ie. put your money in this oven and bake it. As bread rises from yeast, your money will increase. the scammer would put some money in the oven, with the increase  well  hidden. Say  the grifter put ten dollars in the oven, baked it, opened the oven and the money he pulls out is 1000. Wow, you say. so you go and get all the money you got, put it in the oven, start to bake it, a false cop walks in, hauls you outside, and then his partner takes all your money out the oven. This is quite similar to the ,prosperity gospel.

Okay. So you were tithing your gross income in the IC, giving additional offerings and donations, and so you expected a financial harvest—the 100 fold return blessing that prosperity preachers have assured you that you will receive for your giving. Yet, you found yourself in the worst financial shape that you have ever been in. The more you give, the less you have, and that’s a fact.

But you kept waiting and you kept lying to yourself and to others every time you say “I’m blessed.” Then your car breaks down, your house burns down and you have no insurance. You let your insurance laps in order to give toward the church’s building fund. Out of nowhere, you are homeless. You cry, “why Lord, why?” His response?
I sent you a wake-up call, a demon of poverty as your “alarm clock.” Can’t you read the signs? Have you completely lost ALL commonsense? The prosperity message is one of the doctrines of the devils the Apostle Paul warned you about in My word. I have allowed you to suffer poverty as “a wake up call.” When you come out of that church, I’ll bless you again!”
There are other wake up calls. In my book, “the New Idolatry,” I quote the late Watchman Nee:

“Should the child of God desire freedom, his folly must be removed. In other words, he must know the truth. He needs to appreciate the real nature of affairs. Satanic lies bind, but God’s truth unshackles.Naturally the knowledge of truth is going to be costly, for it will shatter the vainglory one has assumed due to his past experiences. He looks upon himself as far more advanced than others, as being spiritual and infalliable. How hard hit he will be if he confesses the possibility of his being invaded or if he is
shown to have been so invaded!” (The Spiritual Man 1968)

Therefore, if you are a child of God, and you have been ‘invaded,’ what you need to know is that the enemy could not invade you without your cooperation. And if you have unknowingly been cooperative with the enemy , then God allowed a demon to invade you “for your good.” Once you receive the message of the wake up call, you will be set free and your finances will prosper.

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One of the ways to try the spirits in false conversions, deliverance, actually anything spiritual is to ask yourself “is The Lord at the center of this? ”

When spiritual gifts, anointing and miraculous power, or promises of health and wealth are put front and center, the focus may refer to The Lord on occasion, but He is like an afterthought.

The truth is, if you want to be Spirit filled, then you need to be Christ centered and not Holy Ghost centered.

I have worked with people in torment and when I hear their testimonies of how they got born again, some were either Holy Ghost centered or the Father centered.

Now granted, in prayer, we go to the Father in the name of Jesus. But that is only after we are born again, The Father does not want to hear anything from you until you have been centered and focused in His Son.

What I have heard in plenty testimonies of false conversions is that the person went to the Father and said, “forgive me, cleanse me” and then got an answer from Sananda.

In essence, the Father’s position is “Don’t come seeking Me until you have seen my Son.” In my own words, I imagine the Son speaking to us in this fashion.

It is the job of the Holy Spirit to reveal ME to you. If you are chosen from before the foundation of world, the Holy Ghost will reveal Me to you. Once THAT happens, then you have unlimited access to the Father in MY name.”

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New Age visualization is the use of mental concentration and directed mental imagery in the attempt to secure particular goals, whether physical, psychological, vocational, educational, or spiritual.

The practice of visualization is ancient. How does it claim to work? Visualization attempts to program the mind to discover inner power and guidance. For example, by using the mind to contact an alleged inner divinity or “higher” self, practitioners claim they can manipulate their personal reality to secure desired goals, such as occult revelations, financial security, health, or improved learning, etc.

I suppose that visualization is also a way to enter into an ASC. When I studied self hypnosis, I was trained to use heat to induce heaviness, which itself opens the doorway to the ASC. Counting backwards in a monotone, you say something like, “you are laying in the sun, you feel hot, heavy, you can’t hold up your arm because it is so heavy.” And this is how it actually feels when you are in an ASC. You begin to get drowsy, this is a form of visualization.

The Satanists provide a step by step process to close chakras which is not permanent. These are the reasons they give for closing chakras. Look at what I have highlighted as to THEIR reasons for closing them:

This exercise is important and very useful for shutting out unwanted and/or harmful energies. Upon closing your chakras, you will feel a sense of calm and inner peace. Closing your chakras will also protect you from the energies of both unpleasant humans and astral entities as both attach themselves, penetrating at the chakras. By closing your chakras when you are in the presence of threatening beings, you can prevent most of the negative energies from entering and attaching to your soul. Closed chakras can also protect you from psychic vampirism. This exercise can also help to still the mind when done before void meditation as it shuts out a lot of psychic noise.

When I close chakras, I don’t use any visualization or meditation methods. I simply apply the name of Jesus Christ of NAZARETH, and His name works.

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In order for truth to set us free, we are going to be challenged in all ways, spirit, soul, body, and mind. Challenges emerge from people, places, and things, attitudes, and beliefs. The main challenge is linked to our assumptions.” Many of us don’t realize it but we assume God is not in control, and that we need to help Him out with everything. Part of walking in the spirit is to walk by faith knowing that God is ordering our steps. If you’ve had a false conversion and you know it, that was God. God has ordered your steps to know it. The word of God says that God’s people are destroyed for a lack of knowledge. Now you have some knowledge that you can work with.
Don’t panic and try to figure out “what must I do now?” What you must do now is wait. We need to learn how to wait. If things are going along the way God wants them to go along, then you may not hear from Him. Think about walking a dog. The dog is on a chain, and he’s walking along, and then he moves over into an area or a location where the one who’s walking him doesn’t want him to go, and a tug is placed on that chain. That’s kind of how walking in the spirit is. You’re walking by faith. God has got the path laid out, and He’s even got the trouble spots there for a reason. Don’t just think that because you ran into trouble or it looks like you failed in a particular situation that God was not guiding your journey. With decades to look back on and review, I see God in my failures because in His divine wisdom, He knew that I would learn and retain more wisdom from my failures than from my apparent successes, particularly where my productivity was not a struggle.
Bearing fruit is cultivated and refined by trouble and tribulation. So, when you have a piece of information that doesn’t sit well with you, and you say “Well why didn’t God tell me before? Why is it that I spent so many years in the Institutional Church and I was blind? Why didn’t He come to me before?” when I was finally undeceived, I never asked God such questions. Why not? Well, because I have been blessed with too much respect and fear of the Lord. Not fear derived from panic, but sheer homage and respect. So I am careful not to question Him about His timing. Even though I came into the church without any religious background, God took 28 years before my blinders started coming off. The issue I had to come to terms with is an assumption that the three dreams I had that compelled me to go to a particular local denominational church DID NOT COME FROM GOD. As the Holy Spirit led Jesus into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil, the Holy Spirit led me into a a local church to be deceived. As such, He allowed the enemy to send me those three dreams. Why would God do such a thing? Well, He had His reasons. I could not do the work that I am chosen to do if I had no background in the IC. I would not be able to understand what those of you who He is calling out of Her now have been through if I had not been through it myself.
So yes, the enemy is put into the plan by God Himself.
 Consequently, I have never asked God, “why did You wait so long?” Nor did I go running around to other people or to other ministries to desperately confirm what God was saying and doing with me. Actually, I never looked for anybody’s approval or disapproval. I just kept moving forward. I simply shook all religious dust from my feet. If people reject what I teach and practice, I leave them alone. I don’t sulk. I am too busy preparing myself for those who WILL hear my voice. . As far as those who don’t hear, I say to myself “Maybe they’ll come back around again, perhaps they won’t.” that is it. My thoughts on those who reject my teachings are brief and impersonal. The problem is too broad, too severe to get stuck on any individual. When I am about the business of moving forward, I don’t challenge my equilibrium by turning around to look back. I keep in mind that God is in control. He is in control of what He will allow the enemy to do to one of His own. He is in control. Period.
Think about Job. The enemy could do this, this, and this, but couldn’t do that. He couldn’t take Job’s life. There was something that God wanted Job to learn from that experience and he learned it. What Job learned was to stop being so religious because his religion was based in fear. After all, the very thing Job feared came upon him. So Job learned to trust God, because He,— God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit— is in control, and He’s guiding our steps.
So be warned that the Lord will resist the proud. Spiritual pride can be our strongest enemy. .
So when you feel and even say things like “how could I have been deceived, how could I have been so stupid,” you should understand this. Present day deception is not new. In fact, it has been going on for centuries. So just be happy when God wakes you up. Don’t get all offended. God resists the proud. So receive your grace by your humility.
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One of the reasons that makes  witnessing to churchgoers both difficult and unpleasant  is because  they have not yet heard from the Lord in a revelatory way.  Most of religious  believe that if your argument is not bible based, then it is not worth listening to.  So, a way to get through to them is using the scriptures in red.  In other words, “What did the Lord Jesus say?”  Use the Lord’s own words to reveal the truth to them.

The Lord  Jesus presented a group of kingdom of heaven parables, most of which He did not explain, but he left some clues. One of the clues as depicted in Matthew 13, is the birds. Therefore, when you’re keeping things very general, your focus is to  rely on what the Lord said, what the Lord shared. And you ask your religious churchgoer,” what do they think that parable means?”  Listen to what they say. You also  ask questions. First of all  Ask them, “what do the birds represent?”  They won’t know.  So remaining focused and patient, you highlight  to the verse which most people know by taking him, her to the parable of the mustard seed, that grew into a large tree.

The trunk of that tree is the Catholic church, and the branches of that tree that come out of that trunk are the plethora of Protestant denominations and non-­denominations. They are the branches of that tree. there should be no argument that the tree is  the system of the Institutional Church. in this context you can also clarify that the Body of Christ is not the Institutional Church where believers gather together for Sunday morning worship. So it will be relatively easy  to distinguish the difference between the body of Christ and the Institutional Church. you should be able to get agreement the body of Christ consists of every born again person who ever lived, who’s living now, and who ever will live. Clearly,  the body of Christ and  the institution of church and religion are not the same.

Once these matters are clarified, then continue to interpret  this parable.  Next consider the birds, nestling in the branches. Now you can make that the non-Catholic denominations have the devil as well as the Catholics.   The trunk is the Catholic church! The people that started the Protestant church were Catholics, former Catholics who left Catholicism who started a whole new branch of religion. So, that’s another simple piece. the Catholics are the trunk of the tree and  Protestants are the branches. . In the Protestants we have the denominations and the non-­denominations. Simple. Keep it simple.

Now, some believe  that the Catholic church is of God , but it’s the branches that spoiled things. Others believe  that God set up the branches , but it’s the Catholic church that is demonic.  “Oh, forget about the Catholics, they’re all witchcraft, with their worshipping the saints and all that, they got the devil, they bigtime got the devil. But the denominations, I mean, these are the ones, this is the true church.” No. Make it plain that one comes out of the other.

Then ask the question, ” who are the birds?”  THE ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT!!!!

  Once  Jesus used a symbol, it makes sense that the symbol  will have a similar meaning once  He uses it again. In Matthew 13, known as the parable of the sower,  the Lord is metaphorically discussing the reasons why some hearers of the word do not become  born again.  Jesus shared that the one who hears the word by the wayside do not become born again because the birds come and eat the seed.  Later on in that chapter, the Lord interprets His own parable to the apostles, revealing that the birds are demons. They are evil spirits: fallen angels and demons.

So, go back and look at the mustard seed parable concerning the birds in the branches of the institutional church system. Keeping things simple, if the birds were demons in the parable of the sower, , than Jesus is probably giving us a clue that the birds up in the branches of the mustard seed parable are demons too. So if the birds up in the branches are demons. believe me, the Catholic church is also run by fallen angels. Fallen angels and demons are in the Institutional Church.

Perhaps you will be asked if you believe  God ever been involved with Institutional  Church? To answer this question” refer to the  the first two or three chapters of the book of Revelation, where a message is sent from the Lord , not to the church, but to the angel of the church. Clearly,  God’s  angels played  an important role in the operation of the Institutional Church, and seeing as it was a Roman emperor who started the Institutional Church, it doesn’t take too much common sense to realize that the angesl who are in control of the Institutional Church today are fallen, they’re not God’s angels.

From the book of Revelation, God’s angels have been involved. For example,  point out that the Church at Thytira reads a lot like the Catholic Church. So there’s time that can be spent with those seven letters. There’s a video that Pam did on it. You should use the tools that Pam has prepared. Review the messages Jesus gave to every church, to every angel of every church. Apparently, those angels didn’t do their job. I don’t know for sure.  That’s another thing, you’ve got to be prepared to say sometimes, “I don’t know.” But you’ve got to stay focused.

 Churchgoers, both traditional and charismatic tend to leap from topic to topic.  In this case, you must stay focused.  The major point you should make is God’s relationship to the institutional church according to the words of Jesus in His parables and in the book of revelation. we’re talking about dealing with the institution.  the average committed churchgoer is going to defend THEIR church and their pastor. with defenses like  “oh, well my church doesn’t do what these charismatic churches do, they don’t ask for tithes, they don’t teach this, they don’t teach that.”

You have to point out that certainly there are righteous, sincere people in some of the churches, both pastors and laity. The question is “Do you want to be in a church that regardless of how committed and faithful the people seem, their organization is run by fallen angels and demons?”  The birds in the branches is the bottom-line to consider!  Until a religious, deceived person comes to the realization that Satan, the god of this world, is in control, is it really safe to worship there?  The next question to address is “what about the plagues that the Lord mentions in Rev 18:4 when He warns “Come out of Her My People, less you partake of Her sins and receive of Her plagues.”

Where are God’s people for the most part?  Let the churchgoer answer that question.   The very first place even an atheist will think of is “the Institutional Churches. “

This is all very simple.  The enemy keeps the confusion complicated so that churchgoers will protest with all kinds of explanations and excuses for continuing to do what the Lord has warned them not to do.

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